What About My Cause? If you don't support my cause - i don't support yours. Who said that it is OK to bring children into this world? if you did it, then you are responsible for whatever happens to them, no matter what you think about it, same with pets. little parasites are mere extension of you and slowly sucking living lights out of everyone around, and since you don't give a shit about me, never did, why should i care about your kids? thats why they are called "your" kids, not mine. please don't show their photos to me either, a - they are ugly, b - i don't care about them, never did, nobody does, and if they say they do - they are lying. kids are not our future - they are our abomination. David Octavian Alexander David Octavian Alexander ah what is your cause then ? 22 February 2009 at 16:50 · Devon S Scott Devon S Scott we will inevitably raise a generation of children filled with all the knowledge of ages past, but not one shred of wisdom to govern it. our generation will be the last generation to know the joy's of personal freedom and the enlightenment that comes from such things. Children are hard wired to rebel from the values and traditions of their parents. Their rebellion however is limited to the parameters of the sins of their fathers which were caused by the rebellion from their ancestors. their rebellious action 2 generations back probably mirrors the actions of those 2 generations ahead so really all we see is a shrinking of human social evolution due to excessive breeding. . .... See More the moral being don't have kids unless you can take responsibility for them . . . 22 February 2009 at 18:59 · Jeff Klassen Jeff Klassen funny i was just thinking the EXACT same thing, been stewin over it for days. the only problem is I cant see how it helps the situation to realize the utter selfishness and cruelty in having kids. i don't know what your cause is though. 22 February 2009 at 21:06 · Bruce Becker Bruce Becker there are at least 20 times too many humans on this planet to be sustainable, so kids should be illegal till we get the numbers low enough 22 February 2009 at 23:38 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun agreed. the issue is very complex and old. in Russian language the word family is semya, sem means seven and ya means i am, i.e. seven of i am, i.e. the child has two biological parents, male and female, and each of the two parents has a mother and a father, hence seven lights, like on Jewish menorah. as older lights go out the life force focuses ... See Morein the lights still burning, thus children are the once to inherit the accumulated energy of their ancestors, from what i know about the dna, Y chromosome is from fathers and carries genetic information kept intact, while mother's X chromosome, that she either received from her father or her mother, carries information that changes from generation to generation, such as the eye/hair colour, and mitochondrial dna is we get from our mothers line and it's main purpose is to provide enough power for the functions of a cell, such as division of it into two cells, etc., even a sperm has little mitochondrial dna just enought for it to reach the egg 23 February 2009 at 01:00 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun in a sense, life is like a flame - which is not the same flame burning all the time nor it is a new flame either, it carries on from generation to generation. all that said, you steal have no idea about my cause... so here it is as the stages of human life: freedom, unity, beauty, wisdom, happiness, peace. now, what does it all mean and how is it ... See Moreeaten? there are many bodies we occupy, our physical organs of the body, the psychic mind with five senses, the conscience of our spiritual awareness which animates the body through breathing, the emotional self which we individually experience as the feelings of pain or pleasure, and then there are the "worlds of angels" making up the ethereal cosmic body connected to the universe. 23 February 2009 at 01:32 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun there are many different realities out there. the individual physical reality, the so-called immediate reality of the surrounding environment and the inner state of being, experienced, and thus known about and therefore intimately personal and detailed. then there is the so-called extended reality of the senses, created in the mind's eye so-to-... See Morespeak, and that reality can be anything and all-encompassing perception of the worlds beyond any direct physical experience but, however, with real physical effects and consequences, i.e. a place i have visited vs a place a saw on tv, read in a book, or someone told be about. this brings us to the question, what is relevant? what are my causes or a cause? what am i trying to achieve? who am i kidding when i look into the abyss of the mind containing everything under the stars and connecting my physical tree of life to something something out there in the collective conscience by identifying with that cause/effect and making it my own to bare? 23 February 2009 at 01:48 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun the road to hell is paved with good intents. there are friends of mine who have sent a plane load of vaccines to the New Orleans after the levies were blown off thinking they are the heroes saving lives. there are others who go around and happily promote various vaccines (they all bad and the vaccine science is fraud), fluoridated water, gm foods (... See Moresoya, corn, canola, cotton), aids meds, phony diseases (sars, avian/spanish/swine/bird flu, etc.), global warming hysteria which, among other things, is asking people to start using mercury containing light bulbs (they do break) emitting the unhealthy and cold white light, people get caught with their minds into the nets of multitude of causes/effects, that are not necessarily part of their initial journey, and readily buy whatever resonates with them the most, making those projections their own and thus real, and part of their physical/psychic/conscious/emotional luggage. 23 February 2009 at 02:08 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun so, what's my cause? i was playing my mob/mafia wars on facebook, minding my own business, robbing liquor stores and houses, fighting with other mobsters, when suddenly a friend of mine, politically oriented, asked me to join his cause of ending child pornography. (Idiosyntactix Isolda article on this topic comes to mind for the savvy). i have ... See Morejoined the cause group (on facebook) since it is a good cause, my friend had asked me, and i have a friend who was molested when he was six, so i've seen the devastation this can do to a human, specially child's psychic health with severe ramifications for the rest of their life. ... then i went to check out the group and they started to ask me to donate money for the cause and get more people involved showing me with stats that i have done neither of it so far and better hurry up if i am no save my soul from the infernos of hell... or so it seamed. the whole thing stinks to heavens and feels/smells like shit because it is bad shit. 23 February 2009 at 02:22 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun no, thought better, i was playing a game feeling alright, trying to forget that i am the last high priest of the universe and constantly complaining frogs in the Congo jungles, i do signed some petitions for time-to-time, such as release of some Tibetan monk, because as a high priest i can relate to his dilemma, i have signed petition to stop bill ... See Morec52 which aims to control access to natural substances, i made my mark and i don't dwell there, i move on... so, doing the right thing, i have joined the cause to stop the horrors of child prostitution, and after i was asked to farther "DO" something about it, like getting others involved and to donate money, i then unsubscribed from it, removed causes app from my profile, and went back playing my mob wars. why? because i have little to none connection to this topic and i intend to keep that way. i have no kids, i plan to have no kids, i don't like kids and teens, finding them annoying at most, i don't date and have no desire to have family. 23 February 2009 at 02:42 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun so, what's my cause? there are many issues in this world and i have some i can relate to, like ending poverty, homelessness, hunger, brain washing, protecting body from disease, elements, and systematic abuse by people in charge of the public trust, there are spiritual issues and cosmic ones that i am familiar with, i can help in my own ways from ... See Morewhere i am, doing what i do, and the positive effects are being felt everywhere. if there is a will - there is a way. we all, in good faith, doing our part in making our world a better place, whatever that ideal of better is. to download upon yourself the problems of the world is to commit suicide of your spirit and burden your soul with stuff it was not necessarily made to know, witness, part-take, deal with. everyone has plenty of personal demons to deal with in their life - life is a journey, not a marathon. if you come across some shit and it is not yours, go around it if you can unless you know its yours to deal with. 23 February 2009 at 03:01 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun people talk and emotionally react to whatever resonates within their being and by trying to please others, look socially conscious, be politically correct, or lead can loose sight of their own self, their own life, dreams, inspirations and become stranger in their own world because their own world is made out of the projections of others and not ... See Moreof their own doing. time is a great equalizer, the universal currency we all equally have and spend every moment on either projecting positive or negative energy, which totals in charging the light-body and sums up our life here on earth. make the most out of it, don't let the mistakes of others to get under your skin and derail you from your tracks. "be wise in what is good and innocent in what is evil." (St. Paul) "leave vengeance to the gods, more important is to be up-right in your heart than a sacrifice of a wrong doer." -- Old Egyptian Kingdom. "when you stare at the abyss, the abyss stares right back at you." stay calm and carry on. 23 February 2009 at 03:29 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun well, the ancient Egyptian saying was from one king to his son, around 4th dynasty, "leave vengeance to the gods, more important to them are those who are upright in their heart than a sacrifice of an ox by a wrong doer." 23 February 2009 at 03:44 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun oh, one more thing about the dna. one should not look at dna as something solid, its more like an antenna broadcasting/receiving signals which write/connect or destroy/separate dna bonds. 23 February 2009 at 03:51 · Dmytri Kleiner Dmytri Kleiner Bruce, not sure why you insist on spreading fascist propoganda. It is completely disingenious bunk to attribute an ecological footprint to population numbers. The deviation among indidvidual consumption levels is simply too high for such a claim to be honest. Each Canadian has the same footprint as 20 Indians, and well over 50 inhabitants of ... See MoreBangledesh. The issue is HOW we live, not how many of us there are. Focusing on population numbers is nothing but western greed manfesting itself as resentment towards the poor masses of the world, who are NOT the ones pushing ecological ruine. Each 905er equals 100 Eritrean peasents in terms of the planet's carrying capacity. Stop spreading hate. 23 February 2009 at 05:01 · Dmytri Kleiner Dmytri Kleiner As a further illustration, if the 300 millions Americans reduced there electricy consumption (1490W per capita) to European levels (700 W per capita) this would save more that 4x the total usage by the 1 Billion people of India. Blaming populaiton numbers is not only false, but offensive. 23 February 2009 at 08:43 · Bruce Becker Bruce Becker I don't do "fascist propaganda". What I say is a result of my own personal observations, serious thought, and growing awareness which i have come to over many years. if some "fascists" so also say the same things, oh well. I'm sure their reasons are quite different than mine.... See More I have seen and grieved over the destruction which the human species continues to wreak on this planet - "ecology" or "green movements" do not change the basic behaviour patterns of the species in any substantive way. We *are* immensely destructive, and we are almost totallly unable to function as a species among other species in any constructive manner whatsoever. Once one comes to such unpleasant conclusions, the logic is simple: reduce the number of humans so the destructive effects of the species can become functionally proportionate to the continued survival of the biome. 23 February 2009 at 11:32 · Dmytri Kleiner Dmytri Kleiner The conclusion is bunk and the "logic" is garbage, 80% of the population of the earth are not part of the problem, yet they are the most vulnerable to your calls for "population reduction." I posted the math above, it is 100% clear there is no merit to your mainting this hatefull point of view. Population numbers tell you nothing about ecological ... See Moresustainability. 30 Million Canadians have many times to ecological impact of 150 Million Bangladeshies. Think about how people live and not how many of them there are, a lower world population will in no way mitigate the way that the relatively small population of North America is single handedly destroying the planet. You ignored my statement that simply getting Americans to live like Europeans would conserve more than 4 times the electricty used by all of the 1 billion people in India, you can persist in such hatefull beliefs only by ignoring facts such as these. Frankly, I would not have expected such reactionary trash from you. 23 February 2009 at 12:12 · Bruce Becker Bruce Becker I'm not pleased to observe the parochalism involved in Dmytri's condemnation of my attitudes & conclusions. I'm quite aware of the large disproportion of energy usage et al between the "west" and other human groupings. To me these are symptoms - treating them as causes just aggravates and perpetuates the biologic planetary crisis. Although it matters from a "political" perspective that such inequalities exist, such concerns are secondary when viewed next to the devastation visited on other life forms by our unconsidered and specious sense of entitlement to take planetary resources as if we own everything by right. Dealing with inequalities of resource consumption is to me like shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic - it looks real good until one looks up to see the looming iceberg dead ahead.... See More The human activities of agriculture, fishing, mining, terraforming, incessant carbon oxidation, etc., are criminal ripoffs of the rights of other life forms in the way we go about them .. 23 February 2009 at 14:15 · Bruce Becker Bruce Becker ... we might have the ability in individuals and small groupings to function in a planetary-conscious fashion, but in large aggregations it's quite obvious that we are largely unable to act in ways which acknowledge our equality with the rights & needs of other life forms in any effective fashion. Indeed, preserving rainforests, making nation ... See Moreparks, saving gorillas, etc are examples to the contrary - yet these activities don't matter to the actual outcomes which humans visit on the biome whenever it seems "necessary". ALL humans do this - the "west" is better at it perhaps, but every population steals from the planet when they think its resources are just there for them to take as needed. As a result, until humans can find ways to be able to "sit down at the table" with other life forms and treat as unquestioned their right to exist, i will conclude that we as a species are thieves and despoliers, and as such we need to be quarantined. ... 23 February 2009 at 14:26 · Bruce Becker Bruce Becker ... the simplest way to do this is by massive population reduction, although other ideas might also have value. The 3 horsemen of Famine, Pestilence, and War are currently the only functional controls over human expansion & devastation of the biome - no other species has so completely escaped the checks and balances of the "natural" world anywhere... See More close to the extent we have. My attitude is basically dystopian, i think - unless we can learn to find ways to act effectively as one species among many to the benefit of ALL species, then the 3 Horsemen will help to bring about the necessary adjustments ... :\ 23 February 2009 at 14:39 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun "The First Law of Sustainability - Population growth and/or growth in the rates of consumption of resources cannot be sustained." -- Professor Emeritus of Physics at University of Colorado-Boulder Albert A. Bartlett's seminal "Population, Arithmetic, and Energy" lecture. "In the energy crisis, "we have a classic case of exponential growth (of debt-based economy) against a finite source." -- James R. Schlesinger U.S. Secretary of Energy, Time Magazine, April 25, 1977, p.27. 23 February 2009 at 18:50 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=52651339563&h=T-ieR&u=6WVne 23 February 2009 at 18:51 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun "i will conclude that we as a species are thieves and despoilers, and as such we need to be quarantined." done. this was the first thing i have done when i got here on Earth (my Jewish high priest father has forced himself on my mother, according to her and her name is light while my father's name is lion) and took over the office of the Universe ... See Moremaking myself the last high priest of the Universe, i.e. all are now capable of being their own high priest if they want and can allow themselves such a role. nonetheless, this is my ego talking... flash. now about the quarantine, the earth, solar system. and the milky way galaxy were quarantined until the time when we, the Universe, will decide what to do with all that goodness. there was an error made long ago in design of a human being. we are now trying to fix this flow and separate the human nervous system and sensory from its physical host. this will require some major modifications and finally extermination of all neuro-organic bodies. 23 February 2009 at 19:10 · Bruce Becker Bruce Becker *whew* glad to see somebody's on the case :D 23 February 2009 at 19:18 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun dima, you are a kid, i love your enthusiasm, however you are very proud, stubborn, and luck the learning capacity, i.e.. hearing, and without listening one is doomed to fall into their own ignorance and live in a bubble of their own righteous arrogance, naivite, and stagnant growth. i have observed your decision making and its a mix bag of beans, ... See Moremainly you are incapable to discern the right from wrong without getting emotional and being personally effected. granted we all are humans and as such guilty of the similar crimes. however, you are trying to lead and that is a matter of responsibility, and not to be able to except new information or things as they are is sure sign for failure. blind leading blind. at first things were great, but when things got tough, and i told you that you made many business mistakes and that you are inapt in human resource management, as a former prostitute i know human nature whilst you, and lets be frank here, you have no clue about people nor life... 23 February 2009 at 19:29 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun ...when things got tough, you hid behind a wife and made children, it is an equivalent of a depressed person trying to compensate with insatiable eating. now you are trying to justify bringing two more lives into this world by saying that overpopulation is not an issue, well, it is, and since i never planned to have been born neither was i desired... See More, nor do i have kids - i can talk about it, whilst you, my friend, you are the product of a loving mother and father and loving contemplation, and now you have two kids of your own, a family to look after, whom you love i am sure as much as believing yourself being always right. well, you are not, close but not always. ONLY I AM ALWAYS RIGHT EVEN WHEN I AM WRONG, but hey, this comes with the territory, and trust me, you don't want to be me, it is lonely on top and a road to get there is a shitty experience i would not wish to anyone. in any case, the law of a toilet... do you know about it? well, in case you don't here is how it works: 23 February 2009 at 19:44 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun if there are three people sharing one toilet then one can almost always sit on the throne as long as they want. now, if you scale it up, and lets say there are 30 people sharing one toilet, then a prudent time-keeping schedule and management will be required to share this resource, now if you have 3 million people shitting in the same spot it will stink the heavens and will bring down any angels out there. 23 February 2009 at 19:48 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun overpopulation is a problem for me who's only income is welfare at a moment as that moment has stretched for a span of almost my entire life, now with the collapsing economy there are more and more people getting on board, so now what the welfare does is they give incentives to the social workers to get rid of people, and how do they do that? well... See More, i have received a letter from welfare on the 10 February 2009 around 3 p.m. asking me to appear in their office at 8:30 a.m. on the 10 February 2009, now if i had the time machine i could do that, so i called the worker and explained to her answering machine that the letter for an appointment i got on the same day and after the specified hours so i could not attend the meeting, and of course the punishment for not attending is suspension of farther assistance. having lived on the streets before i naturally don't want to live on the streets again, so i left a phone message for my worker with my neighbour's number and she never called back... 23 February 2009 at 20:05 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun ...so today, 23 February 2009, i receive another letter from welfare saying that my case was suspended and that i will not receive next moths check to pay my rent and buy my food because i did not appear on the meeting on 10 February, and to resolve this issue they have scheduled another appointment this time for 18 February 2009 at 12 noon, Metro ... See MoreHall, and if i don't get my time machine working in time i'd be homeless again and guess where will i go Dima? i'll come crashing on your couch in Berlin, Germany and reminisce with your wife about how overpopulation in your living room is not really a problem, nor the supply of food in your fridge... 23 February 2009 at 20:13 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun ;) thanks Leif, i will. after a couple of times dying. its a breeze... and i am not sure that when every time i have died and "came back" is the same reality i have originally "done from", it could be some parallel universe of my third life in this body. who knows. does it make tomatoes cheaper? and i want to thank, you are great guys, facebook ... See Moreand members of the academy. i want to thank my mom and dad, and my 4, no, 5 half-sisters and 4 half brothers and good knows how many friends and relatives i have. i am my legions and we are all that is until death. i am that i am and the way away way out there where nowhere were when everywhere was not where as if by the way we would have had something or not but nonetheless here as it were so-to-speak... hh *8| 24 February 2009 at 04:32 · Dmytri Kleiner Dmytri Kleiner Once again, I present the simple facts. As already mentioned if the US reduced their electricty consumption to European levels, this would save 4x the entire usage of 1 billion Indians. Please try to understand that fact. In terms of meat consumption (production for which uses 30% of non-ice covered land), the 300 million people of North America ... See Moreconsume 7 times more than the 1 Billion people of India. Not 7 times more per capita, simply 7 TIMES MORE. I have never said that population is not on it's own an area of concern (solutions for which cluster around education and freedom not moralizing and subjugation). Attributing ecological impact to raw population numbers is simply wrong and dishonest. If the concern is ecological, then what needs to be counted is cars and cows, not Indian peasents, whose right to exist is esentially denied by neo-malthusians and their self-serving population theories, despite the fact that thier way of living is orders of magnitude more sustainable than ours 24 February 2009 at 06:19 · Dmytri Kleiner Dmytri Kleiner Sasha, Lief, none of my comments have the slightest to do with my own family or "famility values" (whatever that means). If possible, please try to respond to what I have actually said. My own family is not a political topic, thanks. 24 February 2009 at 06:52 · Dmytri Kleiner Dmytri Kleiner Hi Lief, although I think your "2 children" formula is over simplistic, I'm actually not interested in commenting on them. I was not repsonding to your comments, but rather to Bruce's that we need to "reduce" the pupulation to 20% of it's current total. This "final solution" type of thinking to me is fascist or at least crypto-fascist in it's ... See Moreessense, and coupled with blaming the poor masses of the world for ecological issues when they are clearly and demonstratebly not the ones responsable is offensive, Also, the west will need to reduce their consumption levels, especially of meat and energy, as a simple result of depletion and geopolitics, and world population has nothing to do with this. Population Issues are not ecological issues, the relatively smal population of North America is more tha able to destroy the planet without any help at all from the rest ofthe world, and to the degree that the rest of the planet does contribute it is often in producing good for export to NA. 24 February 2009 at 11:32 · Dmytri Kleiner Dmytri Kleiner Lief, wether my family is or is not a poliical topic, I am not interested in discussing it. It is immaterial to my arguments. Please look up Ad hominem in a logic lexicon. In any case your arguments seem to amount to the fact that Population is an issue, which I have not disagreed with. I have pointed out thaat it is not an ecological issues as is ... See Moreoften claimed by those thould would rather blame the impact their own way of living on the poor masses of the world, and also "final solution" type proposals are repugnant. That birth control and education are good ideas, I think we both agree is self evident. 24 February 2009 at 11:37 · Dmytri Kleiner Dmytri Kleiner Speaking of replacement levels, the figure is over two, 2.3 per woman or something like that IIRC, any less than that and a population will shrink (without immigratoin). There are benefits to a shrinking population, but they are long term, short term (meaning for the smaller generation and their parent's generation) it generaly means collapse of ... See Moresocial programs, such as pensions and health care, not to mention economic collapse. In anycase, population shrinkage is inevitable IMO, however it can not happen fast enough to compensate for western consumption levels, thus those will have to drop faster and sooner. 24 February 2009 at 11:47 · Dmytri Kleiner Dmytri Kleiner Lief, I am not sure what you arguing in this last message. Who want's "yet more people?" Who mentioned "ignorance absolving responsibiliy?" You've lost me. I repeat, while Population is an issue in it's own right, relating ecological issues to raw population figures is wrong and dishonest, and propsing that the "final solution to the ecological ... See Moreissue" is to reduce the world population to 20% of it's current total is repugnant. That is what I have argued. Not sure how you can take from this that "you should live in poverty so that others can have big families," which strikes me as a pretty random sentence. 24 February 2009 at 11:59 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun ya, family, alright.... 8| ... OK, you are my family. love u 3=0 ;) "Indian peasants, whose right to exist is essentially denied by neo-malthusians and their self-serving population theories," HA! theories yes, not in practice, the faminism blew right into their faces since no one would read it except the caucasian women who in turn stop having ... See Morefamilies and children and start to have jobs and careers, hence the opposite effect from what was expected took place, the predominately rich h'white caucasians are decreasing in numbers world wide while predominately poor the rest of the world is exploding in numbers with only China trying to do something about it. 25 February 2009 at 02:31 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun the overpopulation, i.e. population growth at any rate, is part of a problem and cannot be sustained, so is the growth in consumption/pollution at any rate is also unsustainable, this is the first law of sustainability. this means that eventually we will have zero population/consumption growth in the world, such is the math of growth - it is ... See Morelimited. i agree that getting rid of the 80% is a desperate act of a "final solution" and whoever is going to do it is in love with life and obsessively trying to survive, since they were probably a blow fish in previous life and are making their debut in a human form, not someone i fancy to keep a company with thereafter for who knows how long... i really hope i am not one of those three immortal ones, what a fucked up job that is, a thousand years is bad enough... many people live to multiply and die soon after they do, well within 120 years, which is more than enough for it. on the contrary, to live a thousand years one cannot follow the mortals 25 February 2009 at 03:35 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun gogl-mogl: mix two egg yolks with one tea spoon of sugar and stir until the mix turns white. try it with honey or maple syrup... 25 February 2009 at 03:46 · Bruce Becker Bruce Becker actually i said 20 times, which is 5%. all this talk of "final solution" is just plain silly. i never proposed anything about how such a thing might come about.... See More clearly there is much more emotion than logic going on, and i am not at all interested in having outdated ideas projected onto my words which have nothing at all to do with how i think and feel. to me this is not about the fate of one or another group of people as compared to some others, nor is is it even about the fate of humans as a whole: it is about the fate of all life on earth, and about our roles and responsibilities in the society of beings other than ourselves. it is about our wholehearted acknowledgment as a species of the equal rights of other species to exist on their own terms on this planet as freely as we presently arrogate such rights to ourselves. . 25 February 2009 at 04:20 · Bruce Becker Bruce Becker our current presence on this planet is essentially a destructive role of vermin like rats, cockroaches, zebra mussels, etc. the number of humans on this planet far exceeds any amount which could ever function in any realistic fashion in ways which effectively acknowledge the rights of other species to exist on their own terms: we require far too many resources with these numbers to ever make good on such relations , no matter what our intentions to the good might be. therefore i say that if humans are ever to mature as a species, we will have to reduce our numbers substantially in order to take our equal place in the society of beings, and give up our parasitic ways on this planet.... See More how we do this is not described: only its necessity is. 25 February 2009 at 04:31 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun i agree with Bruce. the way many humans live to breed and multiply is more resembles cancer than a healthy symbiotic organism. and the big church of satan is against contraceptives which makes the problem worst. the human civilization has become more like a tumor on the body of earth and is going to pass the reign over the planet to the robots we have designed and built and not to our children, which makes, actually, a lot of sense on many levels. 25 February 2009 at 05:00 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun the deep root of many human problems is that most people mistake their ego as the cause of their being and not the effect of their own making. in kabbalistic terms, being in bondage of Egypt is being a "vegetable" body in a physical world with the ego as the only conscious link with the awareness of the self while the rest of the cosmic body hidden... See More from view. such people live in the basement of their house with some landlord, their own higher body, living in the upper floors full of wealth they can only dream about but while in Egypt. to leave the Egypt is to leave the basement of your mind and move upstairs where the real treasure is. 25 February 2009 at 05:21 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun the yoga, meditation, mantras, chants, finding nirvana, valhalla, heavens, paradise and all that are attempts at causing an exodus from the lower body into the promised land, which is the higher self awareness, has nothing to do with any specific culture or physical land. no wonder they keep fighting... lost souls. sad but true. 25 February 2009 at 05:29 · Dmytri Kleiner Dmytri Kleiner I've already said what there is to say, once again "population X consumpution = destruction" is simply wrong algebra, since only the second value matters, not the first. I have demonstrated that the destruction can be higher despite a lower population, thus this claim is proven false. Continue refusing to know that if you must. The fact is that ... See Morereducing the world population will not allow the western population to sustain consuption levels, nor will it make western consumption levels sustainable. Also I find "how we do this is not described: only its necessity is." to be deeply suspicious, what is the point of such an unactionable observation? What is the point of describing humans as a pestulance? There is only one point: devalue human life, which opens the door to acceptance of murder, famine, war and subjugation, after all the pests need to die anyway right? The cancer must be cut out! Deutschland seinen natürlichen Lebensraum haben müsse! Those will be my final comments. 25 February 2009 at 08:24 · Dmytri Kleiner Dmytri Kleiner For starters getting US per capita energy (7,886 kgoe) and meat (124 kg) consumption to European levels (3,773 kgoe/ 74 kg) would make orders of magnitude more of a difference than scrubbing India (491 kgoe/ 5 kg) of the map completely. 25 February 2009 at 10:46 · Bruce Becker Bruce Becker omg dima, you're such a sulk! ;p 25 February 2009 at 12:16 · Tif Foster Larsen Tif Foster Larsen ok how many of u guys who hate procreation actually have had a vasectomy????? quit spreading your seeds, instead of whining into the wind please THIS is how u can make a difference it would be ideal to stop at max 2 kids per human, seriously, but i dread the thought of how this (facism) is enforced.... the govt in your bedroom is a nightmare, and it doesnt even work. babies still end up in deplorable orphanages & adopted off... surprised to find any survivor of such a system, praising it!?... See More strict food/energy production & consumptiøn seems maybe too communist ;-) but defintætly more pragmatic for everyone 25 February 2009 at 12:22 · Tif Foster Larsen Tif Foster Larsen it only takes 1 asshole to ruin things.... funny that making men literate doesnt help though 25 February 2009 at 14:23 · Tif Foster Larsen Tif Foster Larsen and i guess the 2 per couple thing is relevant as long as u dont permit divorce, or allow children out of wedlock. otherwise old couples can split, and make new couples = now 6 kids allowed... if we stop with 2 per person u can have larger mixed families, but r still reducing births overall see if u make it 2 per person u will watch men suddenly ... See Morebe very concerned for birth control; and women thinking very carefully who they want that special daddy to be.... no more baby daddies with 8 kids & 4 mums, eh....!? 25 February 2009 at 14:34 · Jeff Klassen Jeff Klassen i think its cruel to bring children into the world just to feel pain and die. Children are just breeding lifeform slaves and hopefully you can brainwash them so they will take care of you when your older. What about peaceful suicide for everyone? Or we develop robots to take care of us when were old and stop breeding. 28 February 2009 at 11:35 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun i was saying that for a long time that we need walk-in suicide clinics where people can have their last meal and off they go into a gas chamber or something. the only reason it is illegal to take life, even your own, is an attempt to control life/death itself by the state, the marriage is a license by the state for parents to have children, and ... See Morechildren in turn, owe their life to their parents and the state, would it be religious or political or both. now, since a person has no control whether she or he are born or not, a decision made by the parents (individual) and the state (collective), this means that the state controls, or is trying to control who dies too and therefor any attempt on life even your own is illegal since the state does not share this view that your life is your own but more like that you are born, live, and die by the law of the state. the truth is that if you had walk-in euthanasia clinics the majority of people would kill themselves after a first depression. 28 February 2009 at 13:57 · Alexander Braun Alexander Braun LOL :) it ain't over 'til its over.